[trash-talk] foockin' money makin'

[Slava]

I don't have a problem with g.com content, I rarely visit it, because it 
reminds me labyrinth and I don't want to pay for my fave band's website 
content, I haven't got a spare money for label.

Official site is kind of face for the band, it's not only for fans with 
tons of money. If you just know the band name and want to know something 
more, you are usually going to their website. G.com looks terrible as 
the official website. Maybe it's ok for money making, but it's a harm 
for the band.

Shell's words are surprising me: all these battles for pictures...
I don't blame him, it's a little weird for me, because pink site wasn't 
perfect, but it wasn't so terrible for sure, and now...



Mark Perry wrote:
> I think this sort of thing is totally out of order. Shell works for a
> living. He does his best in trying circumstances by the sound of it,
> and  
> if you have a problem with the content on g.com, complain to the
> management.
> 
> He and Sirin are great people and they don't need these sort of attacks
> in public.
> 
> I'm a paid up member and I'm happy I've got access to pre-sale tickets.
> Anything else is purely icing on the cake IMHO.
> 
> cheers,
> mark
> 
> --- Slava <deadwood at inbox.ru> wrote:
> 
> 
>>What you fighting for?
>>For pictures? No need...
>>Fans are pretty happy with sites like Garbage box (check out Tourbox
>>if 
>>it's all about pictures for you) or garbagedisco.
>>There's (and always was) 'by the fans for the fans' stuff already,
>>but 
>>you're working for this 'milking money' machine. And we can see the 
>>results of this work...
>>
>>Current garbage.com is REALLY shameful, not a 'naive slap' from Matt.
>>
>>"nobody else will"... megalomania?..
>>
>>
>>Slava
>>
>>
>>Shell Bryson wrote:
>>
>>>You have no idea how hard we all work here to try and deliver
>>
>>ANYTHING for
>>
>>>the fans. It's a constant battle with the label and management to
>>
>>get a damn
>>
>>>thing for the fans. We have to struggle for even the most simple
>>
>>things, and
>>
>>>it takes MONTHS to get anything at all to happen. Have you any clue
>>
>>at all
>>
>>>the pitch battles that take place to get even simple competitions
>>
>>to happen?
>>
>>>The problem is you see, to a *label* a web site is just another
>>
>>commercial
>>
>>>tool. It's there to make money and to promote the band. It's got
>>
>>nothing to
>>
>>>do with fans, other than milking money from them. Luckily, in the
>>
>>case of
>>
>>>Garbage, there are a few dedicated fans involved trying to make
>>
>>sure that at
>>
>>>least some things happen that are not driven by making money.
>>>
>>>Sirin and I have worked really hard for the best part of 5 years on
>>
>>fan
>>
>>>things, and for what? We've been really lucky in this last year or
>>
>>so to be
>>
>>>asked to be involved in the commericial aspects of garbage.com,
>>
>>which has
>>
>>>given us the oportunity to go to events like Jane to shoot pictures
>>
>>FOR
>>
>>>fans.
>>>
>>>So, ashamed? No. You might be bitter, but a few of us are still out
>>
>>there
>>
>>>trying to fight for something better for fans. If that means we
>>
>>have to sit
>>
>>>on the labels side of the fense from time to time, so be it.
>>>
>>>Frankly, a naïve slap in the face like that from you Matt is
>>
>>shameful.
>>
>>>Meanwhile, we'll keep doing everything we can, and we WILL be at
>>
>>every
>>
>>>Garbage event we can possibly get to so that we can have something
>>
>>for the
>>
>>>fansite - because if we don’t, nobody else will.
>>>
>>>s.

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