[trash-talk] foockin' money makin'

[Slava]

What you fighting for?
For pictures? No need...
Fans are pretty happy with sites like Garbage box (check out Tourbox if 
it's all about pictures for you) or garbagedisco.
There's (and always was) 'by the fans for the fans' stuff already, but 
you're working for this 'milking money' machine. And we can see the 
results of this work...

Current garbage.com is REALLY shameful, not a 'naive slap' from Matt.

"nobody else will"... megalomania?..


Slava


Shell Bryson wrote:
> You have no idea how hard we all work here to try and deliver ANYTHING for
> the fans. It's a constant battle with the label and management to get a damn
> thing for the fans. We have to struggle for even the most simple things, and
> it takes MONTHS to get anything at all to happen. Have you any clue at all
> the pitch battles that take place to get even simple competitions to happen?
> 
> The problem is you see, to a *label* a web site is just another commercial
> tool. It's there to make money and to promote the band. It's got nothing to
> do with fans, other than milking money from them. Luckily, in the case of
> Garbage, there are a few dedicated fans involved trying to make sure that at
> least some things happen that are not driven by making money.
> 
> Sirin and I have worked really hard for the best part of 5 years on fan
> things, and for what? We've been really lucky in this last year or so to be
> asked to be involved in the commericial aspects of garbage.com, which has
> given us the oportunity to go to events like Jane to shoot pictures FOR
> fans.
> 
> So, ashamed? No. You might be bitter, but a few of us are still out there
> trying to fight for something better for fans. If that means we have to sit
> on the labels side of the fense from time to time, so be it.
> 
> Frankly, a naïve slap in the face like that from you Matt is shameful.
> 
> Meanwhile, we'll keep doing everything we can, and we WILL be at every
> Garbage event we can possibly get to so that we can have something for the
> fansite - because if we don’t, nobody else will.
> 
> s.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trash-talk-bounces at tcp.com [mailto:trash-talk-bounces at tcp.com] On
> Behalf Of matt
> Sent: 23 August 2005 06:08
> To: trash-talk at tcp.com
> Subject: Re: [trash-talk] G and Amsterjam
> 
> hmm, I stopped being positive around two months ago,
> when I realized everything that comes out of your
> mouth is an empty promise and a lie.
> 
> If I were you, I wouldn't be so keen to talk about how
> much fun I had with Shirley, while simultaneously
> cheating hundreds of Garbage fans out of their hard
> earned money with the farce of a website that is
> garbage.com.
> 
> You should be ashamed of yourself.