[Trash-talk] Scala

Mon Apr 4 07:07:22 PDT 2005

We'll know not to go gigging in Switzerland then!

lou
xx

>
>At the risk of soundling like coming from another universe: In
>Switzerland, at many places we still don't have the concept of
>queuing. You have to keep track of the people who were there before
>you and rely on others doing the same. Just going to grocery stores is
>a headache. I envy the countries which have the routine of queing
>(buses and metro station!) and can discuss the little details of who
>may join the queue where under what circumstances...
>
>The most recent innovation in post offices was the change from a
>multi-queue system (Murphy says you're always in the wrong one) to a
>virtual single queue system by pulling numbers. Things are improving.
>
>-- Claude
>
>On Apr 4, 2005 11:20 AM, Queen Helen fanclub
><queenhelenfanclub at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I don't agree. I think we are responsible for our friends who decide 
>that
> > because they're our friends they can join us in the queue and they can 
>leave
> > as they wish. When I queue, no one is allowed to come join me unless 
>they
> > queued with me from the beginning. I'm not there to save a spot to fans
> > who'd arrive much later, not fair! I arrive, I stay, if I'm on my own 
>and I
> > leave to do something then I lose my spot, too bad, if I'm with friends,
> > okay, it's normal I come back as long as I didnt leave for too long. 
>It's
> > like people saying they arrived at *time* and left and then coming back
> > after people arrived, and saying "but I was there first, I was there at
> > *time*"!!! Next time I go to Brixton I go there at 2am and leave, then 
>back
> > at 5pm, go to the front of the queue and tell everyone I was there first
> > since I was there at 2am!
> >
> > In Paris I started queueing at 8:30am (a few friends were there at 7am), 
>and
> > only left the queue three times, to go to the toilets and buy food. I 
>got
> > calls from 4 friends during the day who said "hey I'm coming, can I 
>queue
> > with you", and they expected me to be okay with it, and I said no way. 
>Even
> > if they were some of my best friends and I'd not seen them for months. A
> > friend arrived two hours after me but there were people in front of her 
>so I
> > didnt let her join me either. It's just respecting people. Now, after
> > London, I dont care, as long as people are screwing other people but 
>behind
> > me, it's their problem. But in front of me, no way.
> >
> > I'm mad at the French girl, Benedicte. I understand she was mad because 
>when
> > she arrived there were only 10 people in front of her and her two 
>friends
> > and in the end there were like 40 people. So we got her to queue behind 
>us
> > since no one seemed to care about the mess, but she turned out to be a
> > complete bitch instead when we were at the stairs.
> >
> > Shirley Vixen <shirleyvixen at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey, I loved the gig. Things were not perfect but imperfections make 
>each
> > gig different and special and much more interesting. I was surprised at 
>the
> > lack of crowd movement but otherwise very good.
> >
> > As for the queue, that is what people do. My only complaint was that the
> > girl who was doing all the complaining completely contradicted herself 
>by
> > pushing in, in the end. Actually, I lie when I say I only have one 
>complaint
> > - my other complaint is that some people seem to think that because you 
>know
> > someone you should be able to control their actions and tell them what 
>to
> > do. I lost count of the number of times I was told off because my 
>friends
> > had "pushed in". Jesus, they are adults. I don't own them.
> >
> > But yes, Scala was great.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Queen Helen fanclub
> > >To: trash-talk at tcp.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Trash-talk] Scala
> > >Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 05:03:22 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Sorry if my review was a bit harsh, I didnt mean it that way. A lot of
> > >things added up, i was exhausted when i wrote the review. And a few 
>people
> > >agreed with me. The concert was quite good, enjoyable, different,
> > >interesting. I was exhausted and ill, still am, i was angry against all
> > >those fans who did not respect the queue, angry at the crappy 
>organisation,
> > >angry at some people i know (a couple of French people) because they 
>ruined
> > >things... I was surprised that the audience didn't show that much
> > >enthousiasm, and i was not being crushed to the front row barriers,
> > >although it doesnt mean anything, I guess every audience is different,
> > >because of the different cultures, they were really into it but very
> > >reserved and quiet. I was sad and disapointed because QUEER didn't go 
>the
> > >way it was supposed to because the lights were different, we were too 
>close
> > >to appreciate it, and people were taking pictures when they were not
> > >supposed to. I was disapointed and annoyed because Shirley f!
> > > ucked up
> > > so many songs and looked like she was somewhere else. Also, for the 
>first
> > >time i noticed big competition between G fans especially girls (I guess
> > >it's that way everywhere) and it saddened me a bit. So everytime I 
>really
> > >got into the concert something happened that ruined the moment. So 
>yeah,
> > >all those things added up and made the show not so enjoyable for me...
> > >
> > >Elfie
> > >
> > >Queen Helen fanclub wrote:
> > >The Paris concert was AMAZING, a big slap in my face, the oh my god 
>Queer,
> > >my god, and #1 crush... and the audience. It was incredible, perfect, 
>no
> > >mistakes. A perfect concert. Probably one of the best Garbage concerts 
>I'!
> > ve
> > >been to, if not THE BEST.
> > >
> > >London Scala... disapointing. Shirley fucked up many times, the 
>audience
> > >was a bit crap (but I was glad to see a lot of people there! And a lot 
>of
> > >people around me were very into it), I was looking around, not even 
>being
> > >crushed, and like "what's going on? where are the cheers, the
> > >atmosphere...", Queer was messed up because fans in the audience took
> > >pictures (with flashes) during the song (when no one was allowed to do 
>so
> > >during the first song) so it completely ruined it, and Shirley seemed 
>to be
> > >somewhere else. Her eyes were so weird (contact lenses?). Queuing
> > >organisation was crap too, and many people just went in front of the 
>others
> > >just because their friends were there (I was so so a! ngry). I guess, 
>after
> > >the Paris concert, I expected something as good and efficient in Paris.
> > >
> > >It was great to be so close to them though, I saw a! lot of details I'd
> > >never noticed before.
> > >
> > >I can't wait for Koln and hearing the three new songs!
> > >
> > >Elfie
> > >
> > >
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