[Trash-talk] Scala

Mon Apr 4 04:21:32 PDT 2005

At the risk of soundling like coming from another universe: In
Switzerland, at many places we still don't have the concept of
queuing. You have to keep track of the people who were there before
you and rely on others doing the same. Just going to grocery stores is
a headache. I envy the countries which have the routine of queing
(buses and metro station!) and can discuss the little details of who
may join the queue where under what circumstances...

The most recent innovation in post offices was the change from a
multi-queue system (Murphy says you're always in the wrong one) to a
virtual single queue system by pulling numbers. Things are improving.

-- Claude

On Apr 4, 2005 11:20 AM, Queen Helen fanclub
<queenhelenfanclub at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't agree. I think we are responsible for our friends who decide that
> because they're our friends they can join us in the queue and they can leave
> as they wish. When I queue, no one is allowed to come join me unless they
> queued with me from the beginning. I'm not there to save a spot to fans
> who'd arrive much later, not fair! I arrive, I stay, if I'm on my own and I
> leave to do something then I lose my spot, too bad, if I'm with friends,
> okay, it's normal I come back as long as I didnt leave for too long. It's
> like people saying they arrived at *time* and left and then coming back
> after people arrived, and saying "but I was there first, I was there at
> *time*"!!! Next time I go to Brixton I go there at 2am and leave, then back
> at 5pm, go to the front of the queue and tell everyone I was there first
> since I was there at 2am! 
>   
> In Paris I started queueing at 8:30am (a few friends were there at 7am), and
> only left the queue three times, to go to the toilets and buy food. I got
> calls from 4 friends during the day who said "hey I'm coming, can I queue
> with you", and they expected me to be okay with it, and I said no way. Even
> if they were some of my best friends and I'd not seen them for months. A
> friend arrived two hours after me but there were people in front of her so I
> didnt let her join me either. It's just respecting people. Now, after
> London, I dont care, as long as people are screwing other people but behind
> me, it's their problem. But in front of me, no way. 
>   
> I'm mad at the French girl, Benedicte. I understand she was mad because when
> she arrived there were only 10 people in front of her and her two friends
> and in the end there were like 40 people. So we got her to queue behind us
> since no one seemed to care about the mess, but she turned out to be a
> complete bitch instead when we were at the stairs. 
> 
> Shirley Vixen <shirleyvixen at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Hey, I loved the gig. Things were not perfect but imperfections make each 
> gig different and special and much more interesting. I was surprised at the 
> lack of crowd movement but otherwise very good.
> 
> As for the queue, that is what people do. My only complaint was that the 
> girl who was doing all the complaining completely contradicted herself by 
> pushing in, in the end. Actually, I lie when I say I only have one complaint
> - my other complaint is that some people seem to think that because you know
> someone you should be able to control their actions and tell them what to 
> do. I lost count of the number of times I was told off because my friends 
> had "pushed in". Jesus, they are adults. I don't own them.
> 
> But yes, Scala was great.
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Queen Helen fanclub 
> >To: trash-talk at tcp.com
> >Subject: Re: [Trash-talk] Scala
> >Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 05:03:22 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Sorry if my review was a bit harsh, I didnt mean it that way. A lot of 
> >things added up, i was exhausted when i wrote the review. And a few people 
> >agreed with me. The concert was quite good, enjoyable, different, 
> >interesting. I was exhausted and ill, still am, i was angry against all 
> >those fans who did not respect the queue, angry at the crappy organisation,
> >angry at some people i know (a couple of French people) because they ruined
> >things... I was surprised that the audience didn't show that much 
> >enthousiasm, and i was not being crushed to the front row barriers, 
> >although it doesnt mean anything, I guess every audience is different, 
> >because of the different cultures, they were really into it but very 
> >reserved and quiet. I was sad and disapointed because QUEER didn't go the 
> >way it was supposed to because the lights were different, we were too close
> >to appreciate it, and people were taking pictures when they were not 
> >supposed to. I was disapointed and annoyed because Shirley f!
> > ucked up
> > so many songs and looked like she was somewhere else. Also, for the first 
> >time i noticed big competition between G fans especially girls (I guess 
> >it's that way everywhere) and it saddened me a bit. So everytime I really 
> >got into the concert something happened that ruined the moment. So yeah, 
> >all those things added up and made the show not so enjoyable for me...
> >
> >Elfie
> >
> >Queen Helen fanclub wrote:
> >The Paris concert was AMAZING, a big slap in my face, the oh my god Queer, 
> >my god, and #1 crush... and the audience. It was incredible, perfect, no 
> >mistakes. A perfect concert. Probably one of the best Garbage concerts I'!
> ve 
> >been to, if not THE BEST.
> >
> >London Scala... disapointing. Shirley fucked up many times, the audience 
> >was a bit crap (but I was glad to see a lot of people there! And a lot of 
> >people around me were very into it), I was looking around, not even being 
> >crushed, and like "what's going on? where are the cheers, the 
> >atmosphere...", Queer was messed up because fans in the audience took 
> >pictures (with flashes) during the song (when no one was allowed to do so 
> >during the first song) so it completely ruined it, and Shirley seemed to be
> >somewhere else. Her eyes were so weird (contact lenses?). Queuing 
> >organisation was crap too, and many people just went in front of the others
> >just because their friends were there (I was so so a! ngry). I guess, after
> >the Paris concert, I expected something as good and efficient in Paris.
> >
> >It was great to be so close to them though, I saw a! lot of details I'd 
> >never noticed before.
> >
> >I can't wait for Koln and hearing the three new songs!
> >
> >Elfie
> >
> >
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