[trash-talk] I may be a pest pointing this out... BUT

Shirley Vixen shirleyvixen at hotmail.com
Sat May 7 06:24:24 PDT 2005


Shell, before you received all the Garbage material in advance, did you 
*ever* download anything by Garbage ever?



>Just because it's not released in your country is not an excuse. What if 
>the
>band were to release a DVD collection? It might be deemed pointless by the
>label if everyone has already ripped off copies. While hardcore fans would
>buy a DVD for their collection, once a video gets onto a P2P network no
>casual fan is likely to spend the money. Even if ever hardcore fan bought a
>copy, a DVD would instantly be a costly exercise.
>
>As sad as it might seem, it does hurt the band, indirectly. While files
>swapped on this list isn't a big issue, it's just a short step and they're
>out in the wild, being shared by everyone. That DOES hurt the band. If you
>get nothing extra at all by buying a DVD or single which you can't already
>get for free, casual fans won't bother. It's easier and cheaper to 
>download.
>
>I disagree with Elfie. I don't see how it cannot do the record industry 
>harm
>(and in turn the band). It's really simple - and album costs millions to
>make. Every sale 'lost' hurts the band, reduces the chance of singles, cuts
>money off of video shoots and so on. 50% of people don't buy singles now.
>This is why it only takes 10,000 copies of a single to make #1 in the
>charts. That's because 50,000 people have already downloaded the track and
>there's no point in buying it. It does not PROMOTE the band at all - very
>few people end up going to Garbage gigs because of hearing an MP3 of the
>album (the gigs are too small - Garbage is not a stadium filling
>multi-million ticket selling band). People who download MP3s tend to
>download entire albums, so Garbage don't make any extra sales. You're not
>very likely to go buy a single if you've already downloaded the album. And
>so on...
>
>S.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: trash-talk-bounces at tcp.com [mailto:trash-talk-bounces at tcp.com] On
>Behalf Of LoCo
>Sent: 07 May 2005 00:07
>To: Trash-talk at tcp.com
>Subject: Re: [trash-talk] I may be a pest pointing this out... BUT
>
>Just my opinion, but some people would never get to see the videos if
>people didn't encode them and put them up on the Internet.  They are not
>that readily available to everyone.  For example, was You Look So Fine
>ever shown on MTV or VH1 in the U.S.?  Maybe, but I certainly never got
>to see it.
>
>-Loco
>
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