[Trash-talk] Re: Curve
starvin' at nette
bowdowntoanette at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 11 09:12:55 PST 2004
Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it at all......... The vocabulary in the
article went a little over my head, so I didn't fully understand it. That's
why I thought it was weird and decieded to post it. Judging from everyones
reactions it was a hugely negative writing and I probably shouldn't have
posted it at all....
"Listen to Genie, dear, Genie knows."
>From: Mark <msp0 at yahoo.com>
>To: trash-talk at tcp.com
>Subject: Re: [Trash-talk] Re: Curve
>Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:58:02 -0800 (PST)
>It's really easy to deal with these sort of things ... just put the
>show on the other foot. How about: "Curve ripped off Jesus Jones"??!!
>Let's not stop there: Trent Reznor ripped off DAF! (One for the older
>members of the list!) ... it's endless.
>What matters is the intent. Garbage are talented musicians, who have
>shown many different styles on their records.
>Just for the record: I have all the Curve albums. I do like them a lot,
>although they do seem to find it hard to deviate from a particular
>style at times. But when they get it right, it's awesome. I'd love to
>see them live, and I'd love for Dean to play bass on a Garbage record!
>These sort of accusations are often made by the music press, and often
>if you go back through what was said, they contradict themselves over
>time, so that the first album was "fresh, innovative, immaculate", but
>when the second album comes out, then the first album was "tired,
>derivative, overproduced" etc. etc.
>I also predict this is another one of my posts that won't be replied
>--- bathtub gin <garbagebase at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Well I wouldn't have a problem with a statement that Garbage copied
> > Curve, that they were influenced by Curve, that they incorporate
> > elements of Curve's sound, that they borrowed from Curve, etc...
> > I just don't like the phrase "rip off" applied to something that by
> > definition cannot be owned. To me, it makes them sound like babies,
> > "they ripped us off, boo hoo hoo..."
> > Imitation, after all, is often called the highest form of flattery.
> > > As for bathtub gin's comment "It's not like anyone can "own" a
> > sound,
> > > so in that sense there was nothing to rip off. I like Curve but
> > this
> > > Garbage-ripped-us-off business is just plain lame and
> > unprofessional."
> > >
> > > Sorry to say this but G did rip off Curve and have almost admitted
> > it
> > > a few times :) Doesn't matter that much though as Butch Vig and
> > Alan
> > > Moulder (the "third" member of the Curve partnership in TODAL
> > studios
> > > - Toni-Dean-Alan get it? - and Toni's husband) are good friends
> > from
> > > working together over the years. At one point Butch was even being
> > > lined up to produce a Curve LP, or so I'm told.
> > >
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