[Trash-talk] OT: Why I don't want to visit USA, ever, any more

[Pbecwar at netscape.net]

Well maybe CNN is lying to us and the "evil" Bush could me making the whole terror thing up to control the world as some believe, but I saw in person the reality of 9/11.  August 2001 I was in the world trade center and Feb 2002 I was at the same spot looking at a large hole in the ground so I am convinced the terror threat actually does exist and that's why we're pulling weeds in Afghanistan.  Have you forgotten about the genius who tried to light his shoes on fire on the plane?  Should we have let more of those fellas through by rubber stamping their visas? Also, what good are rights if we're all dead?  I hate to say it but a handful of middle eastern radicals have severely screwed it all up for everyone.  You can expect damage to be done to someone when the US gets attacked.  It's a healthy debate to have over rights vs security and someday maybe it will be figured out, but I think you lose a lot of credibility when you say Bush is evil.  I disagreed with Clinton sometimes but I never thought he was satan's helper.  If anything I was happy he was getting some action in the oval office.  A president has needs too.
Don't worry too much - there is an election coming up so if you want to go back to the days when we pretend terrorism doesn't exist, there is sure to be an appropriate candidate in your area soon.
The difference between the war on terror vs the one on drugs is:  I don't care if my neighbor wants to get high or enjoy themselves at a rave.  I DO care if he is building bombs and plans to use them. 
btw Bowling for Columbine was an enjoyable movie.  I think a lot of people don't see it unfortunately because the title seems to suggest that school massacres are something to joke about.
pb


wilson king <garbagebase at yahoo.com> wrote:
>I find nothing un-American or racist about this thread. >>Americans do live a state of perpetual fear these days, as illustrated>by Michael Moore in Bowling for Columbine, and referenced by Frank's>recent post. >>The "War on terrorism" is as much of a farce as the "war on drugs" here>in America... what these policies do is nothing short of stripping>normal citizens of many of their (our!) basic rights and civil>liberties.  And incarcerates those who do not fit the mold.  And leaves>regular citizens living in fear of being arrested for excercizing the>constitutional right to gather and to protest... >>This new US VISIT policy looks to be another step towards alienating>the rest of the world, even moreso than already is the case.  Just look>at how much rage there was in the streets of London when Shrub (I mean>Bush) was there a few months back... the world is outraged by this man,>and I hope and pray that my fellow citizens will do the right thing and>vote him OUT this November. >>It's also kind of sad that people in other countries, like Poland, seem>to have a better understanding of what is happening here in the US then>many Americans..... like when Homer Simpson picks up the USA Today and>the big headline is simply "Everything is OK!"  yeah right.... >>Bush is evil. The Bush administration is evil. >>I could go on and on, but I won't, for now. Check out some of the links>in my signature if you care to learn more about these and many other>relevant topics... >>xoxxo>>> >--- xshirleyxvixenx *~* <shirleyvixen at hotmail.com> wrote:>> As the subject line says this is "off-topic". Trash Talk is not the>> place to >> bring Anti-Americanism or any other form of racism. Going ngr is all>> very >> well, but not when it's considered offensive or inappropriate.>> >> lou>> xx>> >> >Pbecwar at netscape.net wrote:>> >>> > > We get rather paranoid when people want to kill us.>> >>> > Then you must very much deserve it,>> >  thus I don't want to see you anyway.>> >>>=====>http://www.moveon.org>http://www.democracynow.org>http://news.bbc.co.uk>>__________________________________>Do you Yahoo!?>Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!>http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/>_______________________________________________>Trash-talk mailing list>Trash-talk at tcp.com>http://www.tcp.com/mailman/listinfo/trash-talk>

__________________________________________________________________New! Unlimited Netscape Internet Service.Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/registerAct now to get a personalized email address!
Netscape. Just the Net You Need.