[Introspective] Neil interview on OMH

John R. Barker john_r_barker at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 24 10:16:13 PDT 2009


It's not that strong opinions make people wrong Richard...it's that I honestly think this whole issue is being overblown.

The boys haven't signed a record deal with DM...DM isn't producing a PSB album or now managing the boys.  The boys decided to market their new album to DM's readers, who may or may not
agree with everything in the paper, anyway! It's a one-shot marketing gig that's aimed at increasing the boy's popularity. 

Personal feelings sometimes must be separated from business.
You simply, under normal circumstances, cannot do business with only those who you agree with on every political issue!  If that were the case, how many of us could fully perform on a daily basis?

Does your company only sell or buy products from those that you are 100% in political agreement with? If no, are you throwing away your integrity by doing business with those you aren't in agreement with?




From: rback at bigfoot.com
To: introspective at lists.jameslick.com
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:56:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [Introspective] Neil interview on OMH












I don't really agree with you, John. Everyone can have 
principles in their private and public life, whether they are a corporation or 
an individual. There are companies which treat their staff well, and have an 
attitude that it is not all about the money, and there are companies that are 
just interested in profit to the exclusion of all else. I know which I'd respect 
more and want to work for.
 
And the same applies for us as individuals. I could make 
more money and be more 'successful' in financial terms, but I decide to put my 
family first, and go down a different path.

Similarly with the Pet Shop Boys- why do a deal that benefits the Mail 
On Sunday when their politics disagrees with your own so completely? Neil would 
never vote Tory.
This is why it is so disappointing to the fans- we were led to believe that 
the boys had principles, which we admired alongside their music.
 
Neil is perhaps under a misapprehension that the Mail isn't as bad as 
people make out, which is understandable if he doesn't read it. But I like to 
keep track of what they're saying, so I check their online site regularly.
 
I can guarantee you that on any particular day in the Daily Mail you will 
find a story about asylum seekers or immigrants, or about single mothers, or a 
medical health scare.
The writing is designed to play to middle England's worst fears, and it is 
quite disgusting that people would take it in and believe it. It is 
irresponsible, immoral, and Neil shouldn't be supporting it.
 
John- yes, it is a major publication. But what have circulation figures got 
to do with its content. Its not a 'paramilitary organisation', but its certainly 
not a mild mannered pacifist either.
You seem to think that because people have strong opinions about it, 
they're wrong just because their opinions are strong!
 
 

Example: "Facebook gives you cancer"
 
 
 

 


From: John R. Barker 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:01 PM
To: svelteness at gmail.com 
Cc: introspective at lists.jameslick.com 

Subject: Re: [Introspective] Neil interview on OMH

Why bother selling CDs or music at all then, to either 
individuals or organizations, that PSB may personally disagree or have issues 
with?

Either you're in business to sell your product and earn a living, 
or you're a quasi-activist who purposely places limitations your potential 
by
avoiding all possible demographics you can service.

I have a 
feeling the boys are in the former camp....just a hunch LOL

After all, 
people treating the DM like it's some kind of paramilitary neo-nazi 
organization...sheesh.  Let's be rational here.
It's not like this CD 
appeared in the latest KKK monthly. 
We're talking about a major, major 
publication.




Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:46:49 +0000
Subject: Re: [Introspective] Neil 
interview on OMH
From: svelteness at gmail.com
To: 
john_r_barker at hotmail.com
CC: derekbd1970 at gmail.com; 
introspective at lists.jameslick.com


2009/3/24 John R. Barker <john_r_barker at hotmail.com>


  What's the big deal anyway about where/how the free CD is given away? 
  
The important thing is that it was given out to begin with.

Let's 
  not look a gift horse in the mouth ;)

Yeah, cos integrity's, like, soooo passé, 
maaaan.




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