[Introspective] Metropolis Mastering Acetates (3)

Wed Feb 11 18:03:47 PST 2004

This isn't about the money.  As somebody else stated, there ARE costs involved with things like this.  CD-Rs *are* very cheap - postage is relatively inexpensive and the padded envelopes don't cost a great deal.  Where the costs to me enter is with my time.  I have to drive 25 miles to Wal-Mart to buy all of the materials and then another 25 to come home.  THEN I have to go through the ordeal of making the product for people (it takes 20-25 minutes to burn a set).  I ALWAYS TEST every track on EVERY cd just to be certain that I'm sending out something that works.  I won't even mention how I have to TAKE THEM TO THE POST OFFICE and actually mail them.

People seem to believe that I'm raking in stellar profits on cd-rs and quite truthfully, the amount of money I have left over after expenses, etc. is minimal.  Anything left over is being tithed to a local soup kitchen anyway!!

The difference between ME and OTHER PEOPLE is that other people would lie and deceive to make huge amounts of cash based on this material.  If the average PSB fan watches ebay, they'll see the SAME stuff on cd-r copies going for ENORMOUS amounts of money.  Just the other day a knock-off Break 4 Love set of cd-rs was sold for over 40 pounds!!!  And those things were just copies with a fancy label!  I could EASILY make up my own discs like this and extort loads of money from people but I won't do it...

Furthermore, NOBODY ELSE was offering these to people.  The so-called "elite" have them but do they willingly offer rare stuff to other, casual fans?  No...they hoard it up and protect it and share among themselves.  Steffen Gaertner had these listed in the Discography for MANY MONTHS, but did he offer to share them?  No.  It wasn't until I pissed him off that he offered them to people in his post today.

If something comes along that I think people might like to have as well, I share my good fortune with them and at least offer it.  I'm not in a position to maintain an FTP site, and the FairbanksPSB group only offered 20MB for files...  I had no other choice but to offer these as cd-rs in order to share with other fans.

I've said my peace.  The last batch of orders are going out at the end of the week and after that, I'm finished with the lot.

Jon Masciana <jmasciana at earthlink.net> wrote:
He didn't charge an unreasonable price for CD-r copies, and I think we
should all be thankful that he offered them to the list.

I also don't understand why people need to be "elitist" about collecting...
we're all very excited about anything that the pet shop boys release.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Davies" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Introspective] Metropolis Mastering Acetates (3)

> Charging ppl for a CDr, other than say $1 for the cost of the unit, the
> packaging and your time is about 7 years out of date.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Firth" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [Introspective] Metropolis Mastering Acetates (3)
>
>
> > You're absolutely right.
> >
> > No-one likes elitist snobs. Get over yourselves.
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Richard Firth --------------- xXO Firthy2002 OXx
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> > AIM: Firthy2002
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Aloysius Fairbanks 
> > >To: introspective at tcp.com
> > >Subject: [Introspective] Metropolis Mastering Acetates (3)
> > >Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:32:28 +0000 (GMT)
> > >
> > >I've been receiving a lot of hate mail because I've been offering the
> > >Metropolis Mastering Acetate tracks to people. I've received 4
messages
> > >from people (Steffen Gaertner, Dave Church, Rorie McIntosh, and Eugene
> > >Greendrake) about these tracks telling me what an EVIL person I am for
> > >releasing them to the general public via cd-r and other means.
> > >
> > >The truth *IS* I received these tracks FAIR AND SQUARE from a reliable
> > >source for PSB materials. This contact person traded ALL of them for a
> > >copy of the PSB demo "Mid-Life Crisis," which was intended for the PSB
> > >musical "Closer To Heaven." I got over 140 tracks from a man who was
> very
> > >desperate to receive the single unreleased song I acquired that he
traded
> > >me 1:1 copies of ALL the Metropolis Mastering acetates.
> > >
> > >Since people have been bitching, the offer is now expired. Anybody and
> > >everybody who ordered and paid for copies from me WILL RECEIVE THEM.
No
> > >further orders will be accepted here and now. If you ordered them and
> paid
> > >for them, they have already or WILL BE sent.
> > >
> > >So...a message to the people who've been crying about me sharing
> these...I
> > >have a message for each of you:
> > >
> > >-Steffen Gaertner: YOU listed these tracks in your discography AFTER
> > >receiving copies of them. Then, you send me 9 emails (available upon
> > >request) telling me why I shouldn't share these because they were
> reserved
> > >for "only the best Petheads." WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU to define the
> > >definition of what a good "pethead" is or not? You received and shared
> > >these tracks with all of your friends...what's wrong with sharing them
> with
> > >the REST of the PSB community? You need to stop denying that you have
> > >these and start being responsible for things that you post in
public....
> > >You also need to start speaking English properly, but that's another
> story
> > >entirely...
> > >
> > >-Dave Church: YOU need to simply shut your mouth. I know FOR FACT
that
> > >people were giving these songs to you before I got them...and you're
> pissed
> > >off because I'm sharing them with other people.
> > >
> > >-Rorie "Fat-in-tosh" McIntosh: You also received these and sent me
> emails
> > >requesting (begging to be kept anonymous - these emails are also
> available
> > >upon request) that I not share them because they would devalue copies
of
> > >things you purchased on ebay for extraordinary amounts of money. Well,
> > >fuck you...IF you actually have the original acetates, sharing .mp3
files
> > >with those who don't have your budget won't devalue an original item.
> > >
> > >-Eugene Greendrake: You're a slimy Russian and YOU need to look at
your
> > >own self before being critical of me for sharing things with EVERYBODY.
> In
> > >the secret multi-media forum of the "new" PSB Forum, you stated that
the
> > >files "Motoring" and "Only Love" were intended for people in Russia.
> Well,
> > >why not the British and American fans? Why only Russians? By the way,
> > >"dgraysn" is an alter-ego of mine and you'd better be careful what is
> said
> > >to him...it might come back to bite you. ;)
> > >
> > >The people bitching about me sharing are those people who REFUSE to
share
> > >the PSB items I have. They REFUSE to share anything! When I finally
> find
> > >the odd rarity and decide to share it, they get all pissy and bent out
of
> > >shape because I'm offering it to EVERYBODY and not just the people THEY
> > >decide who can or CANNOT have it.
> > >
> > >The four of you can go to hell... For those who have received/are
> > >receiving the tracks...good luck and enjoy. Because you know what an
> > >honest person I am, I'll be emailing "Mid-Life Crisis" to you FREE OF
> > >CHARGE and without obligation. You know who you are...enjoy the "new"
> > >song.
> > >
> > >Yours,
> > >
> > >AF, FFF
> > >
> > >
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