[trash-talk] Shirley on BBC 2 last night
Rob Watson
garbagedisco at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 15 02:21:21 PST 2005
Thanks,
just found this on the proboards forum posted by GarbageGirl, its the
Transcript of the show.
About rave culture:
I was a huge clubber and taking ecstasy just introduced me to a whole side
of myself I didnt know existed
It was just a fantastic moment in my life
About the success of female fronted bands such as Elastica:
Generally, the women who are successful in rock music, it seems to me, tend
to be the ones who have an aggressive streak, more of a male streak
Theres a tradition in rock and roll that demands a certain kind of swagger
and testosterone driven attitude
There were all these bands with very strong, smart females involved in them
and yeah, it was an exciting time
About Damon Albarn (Blur):
Damon didnt make people feel comfortable because there was some femininity
in him which he couldnt mask, no matter how hard he tried but his
intelligence couldnt be masked either. (Sarcastically) I mean, God forbid
that any intelligence seeps into a rock song!
About the differences between Damon and Liam Gallagher (Oasis):
Damon didnt really fit in the way that Liam did there was no arguing
about it he (Liam) was a testosterone-filled lad
About the Spice Girls:
Im sure theres a lot of women who took very positive messages from the
Spice Girls and so God bless them for that but its the mixed messages
that I find alarming
Rob
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>From: Mike M <newbie61 at hotmail.com>
>To: trash-talk at tcp.com
>Subject: Re: [trash-talk] Shirley on BBC 2 last night
>Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 04:24:16 -0800
>
>Monday, November 14, 2005, 2:18:08 AM, trash-talk wrote:
>
> > Shirley was meant to be on 'Boys and girls sex in the 90s' last night on
> > BBC2 at 9.00pm did anyone catch it?
>
>joefish did... ;)
>
>http://www.binsearch.info/index.php?q=Documentaries+girls+boys&max=25&adv_sort=asc_date
>
>
>
>Girls&Boys-Lennon-Jones - Readme.nfo:
>
> BBC Documentary:
> Girls and Boys - Sex and British Pop. A four part
> series that tells the story of British pop music and
> our changing attitudes to sex, gender and sexuality.
>
> Channel 4 Documentaries:
> The Real John Lennon
> Brian Jones - Who Killed The Rolling Stone?
>
> Source: UK DVB-S, DVB-T
> Format: PAL DVD
>
> No reposts. 10% par2s are included
>
> There are six items in all, each of which is a complete
> DVD structure which you can play/burn on its own, or
> you can burn them all to two DVDs using the supplied
> combo menus.
> ----------------------------------------------
> To make DVD1, copy into:
> "Girls&Boys1+2+3 Combo Menu/VIDEO_TS"
>
> Girls&Boys 1 - Love Me Do:
> copy *all* files which start with VTS_02
>
> Girls&Boys 2 - Oh You Pretty Things:
> copy *all* files which start with VTS_03
>
> Girls&Boys 3 - Tainted Love:
> copy *all* files which start with VTS_04
>
> --------------------------------------------
> To make DVD2, copy into:
> "Girls&Boys4+Lennon+BrianJones Combo Menu/VIDEO_TS"
>
> Girls&Boys 4 - Wannabe:
> copy *all* files which start with VTS_02
>
> John Lennon:
> copy *all* files which start with VTS_03
>
> Brian Jones:
> copy *all* files which start with VTS_04
> --------------------------------------------
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> GIRLS AND BOYS - SEX AND BRITISH POP (BBC 2005)
> 4x 16:9 PAL DVD 59 mins, 1.4GB approx (per episode).
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> 1. Love Me Do
>
> The 60s brought short skirts, long haired men in
> kaftans, the pill, and legalised gay sex. There were
> gay managers like Brian Epstein, the rise of the beat
> groups like The Beatles and the Stones, and the new pop
> girls like Cilla Black, Marianne Faithfull and Sandi Shaw.
>
> 2. Oh You Pretty Things
>
> The 70s were a decade of sexual exploration in which
> glam rock pioneers Marc Bolan and David Bowie
> encouraged boys to play with their sisters' make-up
> boxes, whilst heavy rockers Led Zeppelin invented
> the macho myths of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll -
> much to the dismay of the nascent feminist movement.
> Punk served up a subversive sexual image that
> empowered women whilst the Bee Gees' disco rhythms
> turned Saturday night in the suburbs into a ritual
> of dancing and sex. In the mixed-up, shook-up world
> of the 1970s, girls could be boys and boys could be
> girls.
>
> 3. Tainted Love
>
> In the 80s sex and pop went hand in hand. It was the
> decade of glossy, flamboyant pop in a politically divided
> Britain. The new romantics, Spandau Ballet, Duran Duran,
> set the tone. Style was the price of entry into the new
> world of gender bending sexual experimentation. Disco
> came out of the closet and hit the mainstream. Then a
> new disease changed all the rules.
>
> 4. Wannabe
>
> 90s pop begins with a new smiley face and men discovering
> their softer side as the party picks up again and young
> Brits learn to shed their inhibitions. Manchester becomes
> the new centre of the pop universe as the Boy Band makes
> yet another grand entrance - this time with no guitars and
> no shirts either - as Take That muscle into the hearts
> and minds of young girls and gay guys everywhere. Come
> the mid-90s, it's New Labour, Britpop and Cool Britannia.
> But the big battle is Irony v Laddism as Blur and Oasis
> slug it out for the soul of the party. Then 5 girls walk
> in off the street, add a little Spice to the mix, and take
> the country by storm. Robbie and Kylie become Pop Idols
> of the era.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> THE REAL JOHN LENNON (Channel4 2000)
> 16:9 PAL DVD 78 mins, 1.67GB
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> The John Lennon story told with archive footage and
> interviews, mostly from Cynthia`s point of view.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> BRIAN JONES - WHO KILLED THE ROLLING STONE(Channel4 2005)
> 16:9 PAL DVD 47 mins, 1.00GB
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> The life and death of the Rolling Stones` Brian Jones, told
> with archive footage and interviews.
>
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