[trash-talk] I may be a pest pointing this out... BUT

[Shirley Vixen]

I had already written and posted before I read your last email!

lou
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>From: "Shell Bryson" <shell.bryson at dhnewmedia.com>
>To: "Trash" <trash-talk at tcp.com>
>Subject: RE: [trash-talk] I may be a pest pointing this out... BUT
>Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:41:55 +0100
>
>Yes of course...! read my last mail :) I'm on no pedestal here... :D The
>thing is everyone on this list is very likely to go buy everything as well,
>so I suppose the argument doesn't really apply anyway!
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: trash-talk-bounces at tcp.com [mailto:trash-talk-bounces at tcp.com] On
>Behalf Of Shirley Vixen
>Sent: 07 May 2005 14:24
>To: trash-talk at tcp.com
>Subject: RE: [trash-talk] I may be a pest pointing this out... BUT
>
>Shell, before you received all the Garbage material in advance, did you
>*ever* download anything by Garbage ever?
>
>
>
> >Just because it's not released in your country is not an excuse. What if
> >the
> >band were to release a DVD collection? It might be deemed pointless by 
>the
> >label if everyone has already ripped off copies. While hardcore fans 
>would
> >buy a DVD for their collection, once a video gets onto a P2P network no
> >casual fan is likely to spend the money. Even if ever hardcore fan bought 
>a
> >copy, a DVD would instantly be a costly exercise.
> >
> >As sad as it might seem, it does hurt the band, indirectly. While files
> >swapped on this list isn't a big issue, it's just a short step and 
>they're
> >out in the wild, being shared by everyone. That DOES hurt the band. If 
>you
> >get nothing extra at all by buying a DVD or single which you can't 
>already
> >get for free, casual fans won't bother. It's easier and cheaper to
> >download.
> >
> >I disagree with Elfie. I don't see how it cannot do the record industry
> >harm
> >(and in turn the band). It's really simple - and album costs millions to
> >make. Every sale 'lost' hurts the band, reduces the chance of singles, 
>cuts
> >money off of video shoots and so on. 50% of people don't buy singles now.
> >This is why it only takes 10,000 copies of a single to make #1 in the
> >charts. That's because 50,000 people have already downloaded the track 
>and
> >there's no point in buying it. It does not PROMOTE the band at all - very
> >few people end up going to Garbage gigs because of hearing an MP3 of the
> >album (the gigs are too small - Garbage is not a stadium filling
> >multi-million ticket selling band). People who download MP3s tend to
> >download entire albums, so Garbage don't make any extra sales. You're not
> >very likely to go buy a single if you've already downloaded the album. 
>And
> >so on...
> >
> >S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: trash-talk-bounces at tcp.com [mailto:trash-talk-bounces at tcp.com] On
> >Behalf Of LoCo
> >Sent: 07 May 2005 00:07
> >To: Trash-talk at tcp.com
> >Subject: Re: [trash-talk] I may be a pest pointing this out... BUT
> >
> >Just my opinion, but some people would never get to see the videos if
> >people didn't encode them and put them up on the Internet.  They are not
> >that readily available to everyone.  For example, was You Look So Fine
> >ever shown on MTV or VH1 in the U.S.?  Maybe, but I certainly never got
> >to see it.
> >
> >-Loco
> >
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