[Trash-talk] Re: Curve

starvin' at nette bowdowntoanette at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 10 09:12:17 PST 2004

I was doing a random search under "shirley manson stratocaster" on 
goodle.com and this article came up (a stratocaster is mentioned earlier on 
the page). I'm fairly certain it's an ancient site.


"Listen to Genie, dear, Genie knows."

>From: Ian Abbott <iabbott at ruiner.demon.co.uk>
>To: trash-talk at tcp.com
>Subject: [Trash-talk] Re: Curve
>Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 20:45:40 +0000
>Well it won't be Come Clean then! That album came out in 1997, 
>tracklisting: Chinese Burn, Coming Up Roses, Something Familiar, Dog Bone, 
>Alligators Getting Up, Dirty High, Killer Baby, Sweetback, Forgotten 
>Sanity, Cotton Candy, Beyond Reach, Come Clean, Recovery. 
>(Universal/Estupendo UMD80475).
>Since then we've had three more albums "Open Day At The Hate Fest", "Gift" 
>and "The New Adventures of Curve". The former and latter were only 
>available directly from the band-designed-and-run website 
>http://www.curve.co.uk/ (check that out for other works by Toni & Dean)
>What is coming out shortly on Universal is "The Way Of Curve" compilation 
>(http://www.curve.co.uk/compilation.htm) featuring 33 selected tracks 
>spanning 13 years of recording.
>As for bathtub gin's comment "It's not like anyone can "own" a sound, so in 
>that sense there was nothing to rip off.  I like Curve but this 
>Garbage-ripped-us-off business is just plain lame and unprofessional."
>Sorry to say this but G did rip off Curve and have almost admitted it a few 
>times :) Doesn't matter that much though as Butch Vig and Alan Moulder (the 
>"third" member of the Curve partnership in TODAL studios - Toni-Dean-Alan 
>get it? - and Toni's husband) are good friends from working together over 
>the years. At one point Butch was even being lined up to produce a Curve 
>LP, or so I'm told.
>Anyway, nice to see interest in Curve picking up again. Heck, I only 
>started listening to Garbage because they reminded me of Curve, and I'm not 
>the only one...
>On 9 Mar 2004, at 20:01, trash-talk-request at tcp.com wrote:
>>Curve -- COME CLEAN [Universal Records]
>>Yes... it is true... Curve have returned to kick Shirley Manson's 
>>goddamned ass. New album, new label, and new sound (sorta) -- they've 
>>moved away slightly from the wall-of-guitar-festooned-with-weird-shit 
>>sound of earlier albums (in other words, the sound pretty much ripped off 
>>wholesale by Garbage). Big guitars abound, yes, but the overall sound is 
>>considerably more chopped-up and sample-dependent than before, and the 
>>beats have lurched into the vaguely techno territory.
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